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born_4_fishin
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Posted: Mon Sep 1st, 2008 09:35 pm |
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My girlfriend and I recently moved from st.catharines we are used to deep slow moving blue water, in the grand river in kitchener its very shallow almost 5 feet at maximium. We were wondering if we could get tips on baits ( we r using worms and small spinners / top water baits) because we have cause 3 very small bluegills and a 7" small mouth bass. but we see many small trout or bass but they seem to b under 6 inches.
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horseshoe
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Posted: Mon Sep 1st, 2008 10:13 pm |
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Hi there and welcome to go fish i hope you will enjoy and share some tales with us.
I googled this and if you google grand river fishing you'll find a lot of info ...there are areas that are restricted and all sorts of info so be sure u know what ur fishing for where etc ...try this link as a start
http://www.grandriver.ca/index/document.cfm?Sec=28&Sub1=3
I fished the river down towards caledonia years ago ..lotsa surprizes in there ..i mostly used a float usullay 3- 4 feet ...i got a few good meals ..
I have never fished up as high as you ,,,but there are a lot of fellows on the board that maybe able to steer you...hope this helps a bit and report in with your adventures and a few pixz if you can ...always great to hear a fish tale
I do have a book somewhere about fishing the grand if i can find it i will put the title here and maybe your local library has it...pretty good read too
Horseshoe
Last edited on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 10:14 pm by horseshoe
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born_4_fishin
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Posted: Mon Sep 1st, 2008 10:45 pm |
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| thanks alot i appericate the help, and i live almsot next to the library so if you have any books id appericate it. i dont really have may tips but the lower welland canal if u used a small frozen shrimp from a shrimp right with out the shell u can catch some very large small motuh bass, keep it about a foot of the bottom.
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born_4_fishin
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Posted: Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 07:47 pm |
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| If anyone else has any tips for me up here this is where i fish at 43.421872, -80.410137, look it up on google map (satilite). i went down to the river last night and seen what apperd to be small trout eating bugs of the top and a large amount of minnows running from small bass. i have no fly rod so i cant fly fish any tips on wut i can use? water depth is max 5 - 7 feet small weed beds and large bolders all over the bottom, tea stained water and moves fast.
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horseshoe
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 01:02 am |
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Damm good question ...maybe try a mepps black fury ...reall small one and run it in qiuck so it dont sink...or a panther martin ..something like that ..or the old float and a cricket ...or bug of the day ...see what reaction it draws ...run the flaot 2-3 feet Hard to guess when ya aint there ...try what ever tricks u got in ur tackle box ...do dok fishes a lot down london area ..he maybe have an idea and furious D too
good luck ...i aint found that book yet but if i do i'll let you know ...another thing you may try is your local tackle store ...go in buy a few hooks n things and have a serial chat with em ..u can pick up a lot of tips if u listen close.
Horseshoe
Last edited on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 01:04 am by horseshoe
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rehanb_bl
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 02:31 am |
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well your best bet then is to wait for the spawning run, then use a simple 3 way swivel (the reason for this is the hook with the leader does not have to run through the sinker thus making you able to sense the bite better). a short line , circa 10-25 cm depending on the bottom, use a fluorocarbon leader 40-65 cm in length. Make use of a small hook preferably no bigger than your thumbnail and use berkley gulp dough and mold a small ball (to simulate an egg) onto the hook making sure the WHOLE hook is covered by it (for fruther enhancement use a treble hook and put three or 4 eggs together to cover up the hook). This is the best setup if your not fly fishing, the reasoning is that your simulating salmon eggs during the period that the fish would be spawning (late september onwards) the fluorocarbon makes the line invisible, or near invisible, thus allowing your bait to resemble a natural food source. With this setup you should be able to hook onto a few salmonids and the odd wildcard
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born_4_fishin
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 06:52 pm |
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for this christmas i am buying myself a fly rod, thanks for the tips i appericate them alot. I have anoher question which colour is best for immitation row? i have green berkly carp dough, red/dark pink row and gold/yellow row, i have never heard of sing a treble hook before ill try it tonight. I recently tried a few leeches that i caught no luck same with a few different water spawning insects, i seen a large amount of top water action it seemed to be trout going after flies of different types. i had one hit with a dragon fly larvee but it was a pumpkin seed sunfish about 5 inches. Havnt tried the mepps yet water level dropped this weekend by about 8 inches so its difficult to move a spinner over the weed beds.
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rehanb_bl
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 07:28 pm |
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| well they say that 10% percent of a trout's feeding occurs on the surface, the vast majority is on nymphs and the various caddis may and stonefly stages. Nymphing with a fly rod however is a bit harder (well im a purist so i try and avoid strike indicators) but it does give you significant results. For roe bags you should use colours that are more natural, the gold and red and dark pink should work fine.
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born_4_fishin
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Posted: Thu Sep 4th, 2008 04:38 pm |
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| sweet thanks, after this chistmas when i buy my fly rod ill have alot more questions for you. I have to say that google satilite maps help find my fishing hole there seems to be a dam about 900-1200m down stream with water depth of around 8 feet but i hae seen medium sized pike around i have top water lures of all types, spoons all sizes, spinners and a good selection of soft baits but ive had 1 pike strike in over 3 weeks of fishing. It was on a orange yellow shallow water rapela, split in two but is connected in the center to make it swim like a real fish. And it was only a small fish any tipss for me? Also along the river there is small pools and inlets i found large numbers of perch, panfish and suckers ive been using worms but petsmart sells crickets of all sizes very cheap these work great too thanks for the tip horsesho it was great!
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