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dokdok
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 Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 08:04 am

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A strain of herpes and three types of bacteria are the lethal infectors taking out thousands of carp in central Ontario waters, the Ministry of Natural Resources confirmed on Tuesday....

The Orillia Packet and Times post

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 Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 05:44 pm

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* Does his best Bevis and Buthead impression*

 

**Hee hee hee you said herpes**

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 Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 10:07 am

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"Rabbit of the River"

I wonder if this was a controlled kill?

I was looking up some history records from 2006 and found an article that may explain the stinky mess ...

Got me thinking that maybe the same thing is happening in your area. Check this link out ...

http://www.livescience.com/animals/060907_aussie_carp.html

 

Last edited on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 11:49 am by dokdok

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hummmmmmm now that one makes ya think  huh ,,,test in scugog ,,,then hit simcoe ...shortly after the release of the muskie ..cant be can   a plan can it ...make ya wonder tho ...

 

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 Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 11:48 am

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Well it's great to hear the air is smelling a lot sweeter these days ... And I'm seeing gas prices drop too over the last week or so (avg 1.26)! Now that's a WIN WIN situation ... Hope you get out in that boat soon and catch a monster!! ~dokdok

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 Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 04:03 pm

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http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/LetsFish/2ColumnSubPage/239472.html

Check this bit I found:

 

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 Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 06:21 pm

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Hey ToX, Thx for the update. I read your link and continued reading some other related sites with posts regarding the massive death of our fish. Its even more wide-spread than what I thought .... and I was also surpised and disappointed to read the other bodies of water and fish species that are affected by this. :(

:shock: "... does not affect humans. Fish carrying the disease are safe to eat and handle"

My initial thought was "Fit for Human consumption huh"!?! :eek:

I guess we may find out in a few more years

Here's another link from Canadian Food Inspection Agency:

Surveillance for Viral Hemorrhagic Septicemia Virus in Wild Fish in Canada - Spring 2007

In this report (Canadian Food Insepction Agency) * Fish from Lake Simcoe were not tested because shipping problems delayed the arrival of the fish to DFO laboratories. Laboratory personnel determined the fish were in an advanced state of deterioration and were not suitable for testing.

:doh:~dokdok




As a friendly reminder .... "Important Information on Fish Die Offs"

Anglers are advised not to consume any fish that appear to be sick, are dying or already dead.  

As with any dead or dying fish or wildlife, pets should not be allowed to eat or come into contact with dead or dying fish. 

If you find dead fish along your shoreline, local Health Units advise:
  • do not handle dead fish with bare hands. Wear gloves and use shovels or rakes to move the fish
  • dispose of the gloves and bags in the garbage
  • wash hands thoroughly with soap and water after handling the carcasses
  • wash and disinfect with mild bleach the shovel or any other tool that came into contact with the animal
  • dead fish may be buried at least two feet deep, or double-bagged for disposal in landfills.  Residents are urged to check with their municipality to see what arrangements have been made for collection or transport of the dead fish to waste disposal sites.

You can also call our reporting line at 1-866-929-0994 to report a fish die-off.

 

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 Posted: Wed Jul 30th, 2008 07:11 pm

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From the town of East Gwillimbury (July 25th):

As the fish die-off has subsided, the Town of East Gwillimbury is asking all residents to continue using their Green Bins for proper fish disposal placing the fish in double plastic bags. Please remember that the weight limit for the Green Bins is 22kg (55lbs). Due to the slow down in fish washing up on shorelines, Town staff will no longer be providing daily pick up of fish, effective immediately.

Residents will be required to clean up their own shorelines.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 30th, 2008 07:13 pm

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latest ministry update: (July 25th):

The ministry continues to send fish for testing. To date, testing results indicate the presence of Koi herpesvirus, which does NOT affect human health, as well as a number of naturally-occurring freshwater bacteria, including Aeromonas, Enterococcus, Acinetobacter and Shewanella.

· Local health units advise that the bacteria pose very little risk to healthy people, and that surface waters always contain bacteria which could infect those with open wounds or suppressed immune systems. They remind the public to not consume, inhale, or let wounds be contaminated by surface water.

· The invasive fish virus known as Koi herpesvirus is an infectious disease of carp, koi and goldfish that has been introduced to Ontario waters likely through the global hobby fish trade. To help prevent the spread of this disease, do not flush sick or dead goldfish or koi down the toilet. Dead and sick goldfish or koi should be buried or disposed of in the garbage.

· Columnaris (caused by the bacteria Flavobacterium) was the main cause of the 2007 Kawartha Lakes carp die-off. To date, Columnaris has not been found in this year’s samples.

· If you find dead fish along your shoreline, local Health Units advise:

▪ do not handle dead fish with bare hands; wear gloves and use shovels or rakes to move the fish

▪ dispose of the gloves and bags in the garbage

▪ wash hands thoroughly with soap and water after handling the carcasses

▪ wash and disinfect with mild bleach the shovel or any other tool that came into contact with the animal

▪ dead fish may be buried at least two feet deep, or double-bagged for disposal in landfills; residents are urged to check with their municipality to see what arrangements have been made for collection or transport of the dead fish to waste disposal sites.

· Pets should be prevented from eating dead fish that wash up on the shore.


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