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Looking for a new species to catch
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dokdok
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 Posted: Sun Jun 29th, 2008 04:05 pm

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You boat lovers out there might be mullin' over what to do now that the whitie season has (almost) come to an end ... The unpredictable weather may have ya landed and couped up and the gas prices ^^^^ ....

Have ya ever consider catchin' a 20lb carp!?! This species is so readily available and when ya catch em' boy do they ever put up a fight!! I'm attaching a link that talks about fly fishin' this species. Now I'm no fly fisher, but the concept and end reult is pretty much the same no matter how ya catch em'.

PS. Make sure you have a good rod that can handle the load (lol) I know from past experience what a monster can do (snap, crackle pop)!!

This sport is really startin' to take off in North America .... Don't knock it til' ya try it!! Besides ya probably got your freezer full anyway!!! :D 

Check this story out... "Reconsidering the common carp"

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08181/893186-358.stm

Hey FishingDude check this out!!



If you have other fish species in mind, please post it, I'm always interested in learning something new!! Have a funtime fishin' ~dokdok

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Hey Dokdok ... you know in England guys spend thousands of dollars on equipment to try and catch a couple of those monster carp ... and they are  few and hard to find. We are so lucky over here to have these and so many other species in abundance right on our doorsteps. I fished for carp years ago on the credit river in Mississauga and what a great fight they give. Personally I wouldn't want to eat one but down here they are on the menu in some restaurants right next to slimy old catfish ... course those Midwest Americans eat anything that moves pretty much... though I never see anglers fishing for them.... weird isn't it. I'm sure that will change in the future. Anyways gotta go fishing ... catch a biggun to show dokdok

FDI

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 Posted: Tue Jul 1st, 2008 11:24 am

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Thanks for sharin' FDI, and Happy Canada Day to ya!! I hope ya have fun catching em' too!!

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Have you guys been hearing of the larger than average die-off of Carp in Simcoe?? Saw a few yesterday but I hear there are hundreds along the holland river. Early reports are suggesting its some sort of virus... last year it was lake scugog and if I'm not mistaken they blamed the fast rising water temperatures as catalyst to some disease.. not sure if its the same thing here or not, at this point.

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Hey Mike,

The areas that I fish seem to be OK so far. Although I have seen other dead species around the shoreline lately in lesser numbers.

I was shocked to read your post and remember reading about this around the same time last year ...

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070712/carp_dying_070712?s_name=&no_ads=

At that time, officials suspected bad bacteria (harmful only to carp during sudden water temperature changes) but I don't know if this was confirmed by officials who were assigned to determining the actual cause. Yeah, it's a sad thing to see and a messy task for clean-up crews. ~dokdok

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you got that right... Cooks Bay Marina had 16 wash up and while they were absolutely right on it to clean them up and apologetic to customers, it was still a tad 'smelly'. I passed one downwind out in the lake and even that was a ripeness you dont soon forget.

I'm just not sure the worst is over with this.....I'll see what I Can find out and post..

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Yeah, we need "CSI - Canada" to help figure this out!! It really is a crime ya know! I look at carp as the "hoover for the river" and other waterways. If they're all dead and gone well .....let's not go there. I hope we don't see the same trends in other fish species too. ~dokdok

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This article was in the Hamilton Spectator earlier this year.

 

http://thespec.com/article/198267

Any opinions?

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Yeah Jeff, although it saddens me, isolated kills are sometimes necessary ... It is sad that they left them exposed to the elements like that for the public to see. I'm assuming that RBG conformed with all MNR policies and procedures. From what I understand from your post thou,, It's my opinion that perhaps a better system of alerting the public is required. If this was a controlled kill, better measures could have been taken to contain it, the area should have been posted to alert the public (I'm not totally sure if it was) and their fish invasion prevention policies need to be reviewed and updated. If this is in fact the case, not only the proper authorities for the area would need to be re-trained but the public need to understand the implications and actions taken to perform such a task.

I'm wondering if there are other agencies out there that would have put the dead carp (or soon to die carp) to better use ... Hmmmm kinda makes ya wonder huh !?! Great post Jeff .. Enjoyed the read ~dokdok :P

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It looks like the dead carp scene is more wide spread than what I originally thought ... It must be very frustrating for local residents and the fishing industry in general. From the reports that I've read over the last week or so it is becoming more wide spread than last year ... :X

News clip ... more widespread this year with reports from Simcoe, Muskoka and Rice lakes as well as along the Trent-Severn Waterway including the Otonabee River that flows into Rice Lake on its north shore and the Trent River which flows out of the lake heading south. MNR has not confirmed the cause. Testing is still in effect.

... disposal methods may vary in the area that you live. From what I've read to date no local officials are stepping up to the plate (lack of resources and funds). Looks like area residents are left holding the bag and have 2 choices (1) let the carp decay and return to the water naturally or (2) double bag them up for disposal.

Here's a few website links with reports from the last week or so ...

CTV.CA - Dead Carp washing ashore on Lake Simcoe

Local News - Dead Carp Floating in Rice Lake and Trent River

680 News Radio - Hundreds of dead carp washed ashore of Lake Simcoe

 

 


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